lostcarpark: (Lego T-Rex eating Jar-Jar)
[personal profile] lostcarpark
George Lucas has just started re-editing a new version of the original Star Wars trilogy. Apparently in this version, Han no longer shoots Greedo. There is in fact a third gunman on the grassy knoll outside the cantina's window. In an interview Lucas claimed that this was always his intention, but the technology has only now reached the point where this is possible to depict.

If you look very carefully, you can in fact see a small jawa gunman through one of the windows of the cantina in a single frame of the original film. Or perhaps it could be a smudge on the celuloid...

Date: 2004-09-22 08:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com
Hehe. Did you know (found out from one of my friends) that at the end of the remastered (or perhaps, rebastardised) Return of the Jedi, he puts in a 'ghost' of Haydn Christiansen instead of the 'older' Anakin. Which makes no sense whatsoever...

Date: 2004-09-22 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostcarpark.livejournal.com
Well, it makes sense from a certain point of view... as (dead) Obiwan says. Of course, from a certain point of view, Obiwan is a lying bastard!

Date: 2004-09-22 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com
ROFLMAO!

I like that, a lot!

Date: 2004-09-22 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com
Definitely. But I really don't see the point in changing it: why not have the 'old' Anakin, given that he died when he was that age?

Date: 2004-09-22 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com
The thing is, ObiWan died before Vader/Anakin. Thus, if Anakin looks young, surely it should be a young ObiWan as well? Or why not leave them both at the age they died, when they were old?
Lucas is just being an arse again, methinks! :D

Date: 2004-09-22 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostcarpark.livejournal.com
But Obiwan's ghost was old because he was good all his life. However, as Obi explains in RotJ, when Anikan turned to the dark side, the good person who was Anikan died, and became the evil Darth Vader, therefore the ghost represents Anikan before he turned to the dark side.

But it's a load of pants, really.

Date: 2004-09-22 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-cloud.livejournal.com
For one uncredited source of the rumour, see here (http://www.atlantismantis.com/deathstar.html), at the bottom.

Date: 2004-09-22 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-cloud.livejournal.com
In the 1997 version, Greedo actually fires first, and misses, hitting the wall over Han's left shoulder. Han then shoots and kills Greedo. Turning Han from a cold-blooded killer into a sissy wuss who only shoots in self-defence.

Date: 2004-09-22 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com
Ah right. Fair enough then.But it's still stupid, it was fine as it was I think :D

Date: 2004-09-22 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com
Yes, he *thinks* he's rationalising it, but Lucas just isn't on the same wavelength as most 'rational' people ;P
Perhaps I'm being too cruel...but I cannot forgive the appalling dialogue between Anakin and Amidala in the last film! :)

Date: 2004-09-22 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostcarpark.livejournal.com
Whoops. Someone's beaten me to it. Doh.

I just think it's daft the way Lucas keeps changing a scene that was perfectly fine in the original version.

Date: 2004-09-22 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostcarpark.livejournal.com
Three versions:

1976: Han shoots first.
1997: Greedo shoots first.
2004: Both shoot simultaneously.

Date: 2004-09-22 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-cloud.livejournal.com
I can confirm that at the end of ROTJ on the DVD, the original Anakin Skywalker "ghost" (played by Sebastian Shaw)is indeed replaced with Haydn Christiansen in his Episode III guise. Not sure how I feel about this. Do I care? I suspect not.

Date: 2004-09-22 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostcarpark.livejournal.com
I can see some logic in changing it, but not to a 20-something Anikan. There is a long established tradition of aging make-up in theatre and cinema, so it wouldn't even need CGI to turh Hayden into a 50-something Anikan, which would make some sense. But it has to be said there was no need to meddle with the scene.

Date: 2004-09-22 11:54 am (UTC)
spodlife: Tardis and Tim (Default)
From: [personal profile] spodlife
Yes, I spotted this when I checked the beginnings and ends of the DVDs were OK in the first 5 minutes of openning the packaging.

The bit on the extras disc about re-making the Darth Vader face mask and helmet was very interesting, though obviously included as a taster trailer for Episode III.

I haven't actually watched any more of the discs yet!

Date: 2004-09-22 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostcarpark.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard what most of the changes are. What they don't seem to have fixed are really obvious problems, like the really obvious jumps characters make when turning lightsabres on/off, especially in the first movie. The sort of thing that should be easily fixable with digital technology.

Date: 2004-09-22 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesangel.livejournal.com
Agreed on all counts! :D

Date: 2004-09-24 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidstewart.livejournal.com
He is altering the movies. Pray he does not alter them further. - Dork Tower

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